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In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Philipp Amann, Head of Strategy, European Cybercrime Centre at Europol. They discuss the need for collaboration between industry and law enforcement to help combat cybercrime, and how to go about fostering trust and information exchange in more effective and sustainable ways. They also talk about the major risks to organizations today, like legacy systems, ransomware, and AI, and how to better manage complexity to reduce cyber risk.

Topics discussed:

• Philipp's broad background in intelligence and cybersecurity, from starting in the military and moving to governance roles in cybercrime, to his current role at Europol.

• The need for collaboration to combat cybercrime, and how it requires resources, trust, common ground, incentives, and sustainable approaches.

• How understanding cybercrime requires knowledge across a variety of areas, especially to articulate cybercrime issues to non-technical audiences.

• The challenges to information sharing across alliances with different limitations and legislations to consider, and the need to address those challenges to reach common goals.

• Why one of the biggest risks to organizations today is legacy systems that may still be infected with older vulnerabilities, and why security teams need to focus on both zero-day and 1000-day vulnerabilities.

• The ways in which criminals are already beginning to exploit AI and use it to impersonate CEOs, write better code, or create more convincing spam emails.

• The rise in the crime-as-a-service model, which could include rogue cryptocurrency exchanges, criminal VPN services, or other malicious businesses.